AMEN. Ive had two pretty crazy encounters with the Holy Spirit. Just accpet what the big or the lesser Popes are presenting to you. As far as Bill Johnson goes, the same is happening in Redding. Shalom, and thanks for debating this important topic. This is part of a completed and growing list found on the Preachers and Teachers page. And if He is the King of Kings, then I am a king NOW. I have never heard any of these types of assertions or anything near them in the several hours of Bill Johnson I have listened to. Mark 13:13 njcgospel777@yahoo.co.in The Norwegian Christian Daily has quoted Johnson saying. We are to be conformed to image of Christ, and He had dominion, he walked on the water, he multiplied the bread & fish, He turned water into wine, study the early church in the book of Acts, they FAVOUR WITH GOD AND WITH ALL MEN. Too much of the modern church thrives on maintaining the old self life and making it appear to feel good. But my family and friends would tesify it has been the best thing I ever did! Comments are closed, but trackbacks and pingbacks are open. The most prominent copy of Jesus is the replacement theology Messiah. How do you know that Angels have feathers? If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sistersyes, even their own lifesuch a person cannot be my disciple. New Medical Codes for COVID Vaccination Status Raise Concerns Among Experts Here are some few points about their teaching, fruits of a Jesus that took Satans nature on the cross. HA-HA-HA GLORY! Those inside the network you are condemning also refute the prosperity gospel. I like what the brother said earlier in this thread about them being our brothers and sisters and that even though they may differ on the way they present some doctrine and have a few doctrines you dont it doesnt mean they are heretical. If you cannot see that BJ teaches falsehood, then at least you should be worried about the friends he keeps! Holy Ghost pusher I better follow the Word of God as it is written, and not your take on the scriptures. Even greater works would all of his disciples do because He was going to the Father. Whoa! I realized the true love of God and became much closer to Christ and am a more loving person. by Bud Press, Director Is there anything wrong with Rob Bell's gospel? The main problem that I see with prosperity gospel teachers is that they put the cart before the horse. But so what? As a close friend said this teaching that come from Kris was so lacking in scriptural understanding it was amazinng why almost an entire audience agreed that the fless is good the soul does not need saving as it is good and laughed at a very lude story to show that Christians should not be too spiritual but can be normal. Our booklets are designed to give away to others or for your own personal use. We are also interested in sharing the word of God with our Church in Zimbabwe Find more information on Dominion Theology/Kingdom Now at my Web site at the link Prophecy Watch: and/or Spiritual Deception. Not only are the Arnotts children of God who are living sacrificially to help others, but my life was changed for the better because of their obedience. No one thinks men like Benny Hinn says abra kadabra, and a Hindu spirit will come and rest on people who seeks his anointing. His Word keeps the world spinning. And since the Toronto spectacle so clearly was not of God, then this person cannot have been led by the true Spirit of God to defend it! True Revival in the Midst of Persecution The World Will Not Love True Revival If you claim that your hand has never lead you into sin, than you are a liar and a hypocrite. Not obedience. Then Jesus said to his disciples, Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. Bill Johnson is the worst of flock. The son and daughter of Lord Justice Scott also converted. Pensacola Outpouring We can of course mix a lot of verses together, and make it fit as a defense of our piles of cash and properties.. I have heard many instances of people finding gold dust and even gemstones from heaven in church services. Jesus told the rich man to follow him. Im not falling for you horrible debate practices. So you want me to cut my hands off, Ivar? This is not an anti-christ spirit! I pray for you to stop and consider what you really can realisticly achieve. There are many reasons why people think they are smarter and more wise than Jesus.. pastors vehicles. Sins against the holy spirit can not be forgiven in eternity. You are not her to gain popularity, collect millions of dollar, and live a life in deception and indulgences. They poured out onto the street and courtyard outside the Upper Room near Davids Tomb. T. D. Jakes Program: Triumph Over Trials, The Potter's Touch with T.D. But at least take the message from Jesus seriously. Living the kingdom lifestyle sets us in liberty from all fear, anxiety, worry, striving, resentment, jealously, envy, anger, hatred, and all other forms of stress. His dominion will surely be global and powerful. They do not labor or spin. I have seen in print what your fellow sceptics have written about Bill Johnsons theology and much of it does their argument no favours. As for all of the comments about strange manifestations of the Holy Spirit like laughter and shaking, Im sure that there are Christians who fake these things and I do believe that there are demonic spirits that can take control of people and produce strange manifestations. They promise a giver 30,50 or 100 times return on their cash, given to prosperity ministries. smoking the Bible Bill Johnson and others in his camp are good people. The gospel according to Ivar, its no gospel at all. glory acceleration He drank alcohol behind the stage at Lakeland. You should take a deeper look in to the Spiritual foundation of the Toronto Movement. I realise you see this as far from petty but I believe you have become blinded to other more important forces. Like I said in my last post, I have never experienced such a thing as Angel feathers falling in service but I wont close my mind to the possibility. Being on this list does not mean that a person is good or bad. No one forced your to come and read this website, and you are free to leave. God is infinite! He works with World Hope Ministries International to train pastors in remote global locations, coaches planters and pastors, and teaches seminary occasionally. My Comment: I never said I was perfect Victoria. And they follow, and desire to be like their Master and Brother, The Messiah, He Who was the firstborn of many brethren. Something to reflect on. I told him he was from the devil, because a man of God would neither use the word psychic which is of pagans, and he wouldve given glory to God first if he was a true man of Christ. www.christianresearchservice.com/ Ivar said: > because the work that we are doing is not easy to do with our support as The Charlatan is the person who uses Christianity as a means of personal enrichment. Hello, if youd like to learn a bit more about Bill Johnson, please check out my site http://www.heraldingtruth.com Im from the Redding area, where Bethel is and Im very concerned about this false church. I would be inclined to acknowledge your website offering it to our users as Im sure our Pentecostal audience would benefit from what your site has to offer. This is not unique to just the Protestant world. Hey. I guess, in my own life as a leader in the body of Christ I want to be careful how I present other leaders in the body. You shall not curse God, nor curse a ruler of your people (Exodus 22:28). For they have gone the way of Cain, and for pay they have rushed headlong into the error of Balaam, and perished in the rebellion of Korah. Reborn! He founded Cornerstone Church at Castle Hills in 1987. God Bless. Now let me tell you what these false teachers or pastors . Maybe theres some confusion about the difference between heaven, the literal location, and the kingdom of God. Major points of the theologies teach: * Prophetic scriptures are denied or fulfilled in 70AD (as is also the belief of Preterism). The Savior was on earthwhat a time like no other. The most important verse teachers like Bill Johnson use in a bid to catch you is: Already you have all you want! Let us consider how we may spur one another toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as many pastors and leaders can be in the habit of doing. Died: August 20, 1912. 1 Timonthy 6:10 says: For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. The Bible says its the children of the devil, who builds his kingdom on Earth. 3. Amen. Today, every year, hundreds of thousands empowered Christians are murdered. The basic premise of the kingdom theology movement is that the Kingdom of God is in effect now, and certainly that is a true statement. Just for you:. He is a rebel, and do not pay attention to the eternal promises of God to the Jewish people. I tell you this Nancy because I love you, and want you to be found in the Kingdom of Heaven. Paul was most likely beheaded. We Need to discern the Message by the Messanger, the Message and the fruits The Evil one doesnt want anybody to get saved! For I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. (I Timothy 2:11,12,14). ;-(. The reality is not that we are kings after an earthly sense but rather that, as children of God, being seated with Christ in Heavenly places, we are empowered by the Holy Spirit, not some silly kundalini, (which makes a poor attempt at emulating the Holy Spirit) to exercise the keys of authority that Christ gave to us when He said.I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. The claims you are putting in these mens mouths are erroneous or entirely out of context. Remember the word that I said unto you, the servant is not greater than his Master. The records of men like Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Benny Hinn, Treflo Dollar, etc, is available. I am not saying you shouldnt warn the sheep of false doctrine, by all means we are called as spiritual leaders to protect our brothers and sisters in Christ from such things. The first part of Tabernacle is trumpets, you will find a clear call to come out of her my people I pray you hear and respond. The world hates Our Lord because His Kingdom is not of this world. Together with him comes pastor Bill Johnson from Bethel Church in the US, who teachers Kingdom Now theology. So many other streams both whithin christendom and without move in this same direction, of human divinity, and the discovery of our true identity and such. Manifest Sons of God Thanks for praying for us. That is the theme for a week end outpouring of deceptive spirits in the largest Pentecostal Church in Norway, Filadelfia in Oslo. I very much appreciate your question! When I received Jesus as my saviour 10 years ago, that event was attended by a powerful manifestation of the Holy Spirit. Kingdom now has wordly element to it and wanting to take what is not theirs YET. holy toking This is the Popes game plan. being high and drunk on Jesus Love You have become kingsand that without us! Maybe the point of argument becomes the word essential above. 5. My citizenship is in Heaven, and the true church is a rescue operation to save people from the false Kingdom builders. Luke 14:26 This is called the millenium. Pastor Bill Johnson has done it, and got it. Then Jesus said to his disciples, Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. I read widely on ethics, philosophy and theology, apologetics etc. The Crack Shop A theology that says, God is giving you that sickness to teach you something, and in the same breath says, healing, and miracles today are solely of the devil, makes God out to be the bad guy and the devil the one with all the power. The good news about the Good news is that people are still being healed, delivered and blessed with every blessing of Abraham. I do understand that we need to watch out for false prophets and teachers especially in these last days. Empowered men. Prosperity Gospel Preachers. Jesus says And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. Jesus warned us about massive deception just before He returns. There are many reasons why people think they are smarter and more wise than Jesus. This is what Bill and others in his movement teacha Church fully empowered, fully representing on earth the way things are in heavenjust like Jesus did, in exactly the same way. One of the dangers whith Bill Johnson is that he is so nice, and soft spoken. When people get the joy, peace and freedom the Holy Spirit brings, when their sins are forgiven, their demons are gone and their sickness are healed, you never know how a person will react. they ridicule discerning Christians who reach out with correction and rebuke, and warn them to stop attacking and stop judging the anointed. Ive seen that happen. New Breed/manifest Son's of God: We will be perfected into our glorified bodies prior to Christ's return. That Norway has problem with faith and christianity today its because of such ppl like Gjervoldstads who have crept into Christianity like wolves in sheeps clothing! I respect that so much! God of the Bible can not do everything. There is no other way to interpret those verses. praise the lord sir All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. I wouldnt close my mind to possibility of God allowing angel feathers to fall in a church service, He loves to reveal Himself to His children in ways that seem unorthodox or out of the box. The question is, what does the life of the believer and the Church of Jesus look like until then? Even if your pastor claim this is gods work, and shouts Halleluja, its the Holy Spirit. He pleaded with the minister that the Spirit had urged him to go to him and beg him to stop opposing God and grieving His Holy Spirit. throwing the mind through the Spirit Its a Kibutz. I have greater faith in my evangelical brothers coming to full maturity than I currently do my spirit filled brothers as we are so constantly looking for short cuts very immature. Its one thing to make a whole lot of comments on a webpage, but it is quite another to front up to Bill Johnson and his colleagues and address your concerns directly to him. But Jesus never faulted them for safeguarding the truth, but rather for what they added to the truth. I pray that You help us, pastors and church leaders, to live with purpose. transporting in the Spirit Pure religion and undefiled before GOD The Father is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction and to keep oneself uncontaminated by the world. (James 1:27). If there is no words of gold dust falling from Heaven in the Bible, you better reject this as an act of lawlessness. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name [Jesus Christ] under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." (LogOut/ shaking like a mad dog Extreme Drinking conference 25Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. How then can his kingdom stand? I will pray for you right now: Lord Jesus. Salvation moves one from the kingdom of sin to the Kingdom Now of Christ on earth. He holds his B.A. And unfortunately, those who hold to correct theology in this realm are deemed to be fundamentalist-millennial-apocalyptic-crackpots.. (James 2:7). * The Antichrist is a spirit, not a person. toking the Bible Saving up for emergencies or for children is very different from being rich. The Cornerstone house of God has 20,000 members, and he is the founder of the John Hagee Ministries. I guess you should pluck out your eyes and cut off your hands too? People are not permitted to jugde betweeen right and wrong, true and false, real and conunterfaith. See if people are saved, see if they are healed, check if the love the word of God more after hearing them speak, check if they seek God even more afterwards, see if their love for Jesus grows, see if their burden for the lost increases. When they say: do not judge, the hidden message is let everything be permissible. All this I will give you, he said, if you will bow down and worship me.. It doesnt get any stranger! If you distort what this man says in the way much of it has been you are doing similar to taking a verse of scripture out of context. I just dont want others to think it is a sin to be rich. In a . They want a carnal social club Jesus who pleases them, entertains them (but not a Jesus who issues orders and makes demands) they prefer Him to be one of the guys, fashion icon, media brand, tolerant philosopher, adventurer etc. Typical manifestation of Kundalini is holy laughter, uncontrolled shaking, animal noises and sensations of burning inside. And the world will pass away, and the lust thereof: but he that does the will of The Only True GOD will abide for ever. (I John 2:15-17), If you were of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~. Einar Ekerhovd is the head of the Oase-movement in Norway. Not everyone who calls themselves a Christian is truly His sheep. What a sad article how sad to read a pharasees article. Would that be treading on unpardonable.. please be very certain. Dont you know that the Lord warned even his first disciples, that from their very midst would come wolves, false brethren and false teachers? Hence, Kingdom Now opposes a separation of church and state. angel cup for Godka (God + vodka) The conference will be held in the Norwegian Pentecostal congregation from 15th of 18th of April. angel pipe full of happy Pappy God has given us power to cast out demons, heal the sick and raise the dead. I belived in god.Nowi working as a gospel work in our area.Mainly our people in completely backword in socially,economically, and trable ,hill area our people all our facing many difficulties. But Im wondering how youre discerning every single manifestation (at least thats what it seems like) as being demonic. praise god you do good work for christ. New Booklet: How to Strengthen the Faith of Our Children & Grandchildren With 5-Minute Conversations Many Pastors have tried their best to explain that this verse, does not mean what Jesus said: When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. That i had to report to the police for threatening and to the court for taking our money thru deceiving it truly shows what kind of christian he is. http://www.bbif.no/aktuelt/apologetikk/dokumentasjon/. http://www.redding.com/news/2010/jan/19/bethels-signs-and-wonders-include-angel-feathers/. Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. I guess you need to try to change and side track this debate with insults to me and a different topic, just like you did in the other thread about The People of the Book. if that is bad then so be it. The worldly systems are the creation of, and under the dominion of the god of this world, he who is the father of lies, he who has blinded the minds of those who believe not The Messiah! He that loves his life in this world shall lose it; and he that hates his life in this world shall have it unto life eternal. (John 12:24-25), John testified: Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hates you. (I John 3:13) James testified, Whoever would be a friend of this world is the enemy of GOD(James 4:4), The earth is The Creation of The Only True GOD, Father of ALL! But what does he teach? I checked your link. The Bible says: Test all spirits. Jesus did not have nice words for them.. All over the World apostles and prophets are speaking about the manifestation of the Kingdom of God on the EARTH as IT IS IN HEAVEN. What a phrase the new flesh, it is an insane teaching that trys to negated the need to deal with the flesh and in fact recreates it as Godly flesh this I do believe. New Jerusalem Church They both are post-millennial in their eschatology; that is, Christ will return after the earth is made righteous by the church. In the end, the church is destined for disaster. I refused to go back any more. heavy holiday drunken glory Video: Warren B Smith A Former New Ager Returns to Philadelphia I guess I understood it very well. She did not share the gospel. Jesus himself was often called demon possessed. 3. The gospel of the kingdom is not just salvation, that is not the FULL gospel. Moses is another example of a man that refused to live like a King on Earth. As I read through the article on the link you sent me, I found it interesting how they sent one of the feathers to a science lab for analysis. Gods people is suffering defeat for a LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. snorting dust from the tomb of Jesus Christ These groups ALL embrace the Dominionist theology (which is a terrible distortion of Biblical Truth) also known as Kingdom Now. I dont see how Ivarfjeld was judging anyone. Deception is the rule of our days. It is indeed good to be able to know you and to learn of the common faith that we do share which was once delivered unto the saints.Once again,I thank God for directing us to you and your church for closer relationship.Your teachings and beliefs are very sound and inspirational that we yarn to be laid and founded in.Grateful to God for calling you to the ministry and making you instrumental to its end. False belief systems within the hyper-Charismatic movement: Word of Faith This person does not deserve to be a leader of the youth,the only place for him is prison. firewater of God While this person has no idea of the Bible and at the same time has aggressive displays of a mobster. > If any man loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. you present a common argument, And one recurring theme whith BJ and Bethel Redding seems to be the dominionist view of us being like God, or Christlike in a sense, that the Lord never intended. I am not so sure, that you are willing to repent. drinking with the Holy Ghost Your Comment: Hopefully you will not sin with your eyes, nor sin with your hand. immersing into electric solitude KING Jesus has power over all nations and he doesnt need His children to attain political power for Him. The post True Revival in the Midst of Persecution The World Will Not Love True Revival appeared first on Lighthouse Trails Research Project. caught up in the ecstatic realm Like, I said in a previous post, a man at my work place grabbed my hand uninvited, and said I can tell you things, I am a psychic, I am from God. His glory must cover the earth as the waters cover the sea. Tell me how that shows Christs love, or builds unity in the body? It is always good to double check what anyone teaches from the Word of God and I am glad to see men of God on this site doing that! Righteous God, I thank You for being our Father. Their terms and words would be filled with honor, respect, and humility for the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (John 8:42-44). The apostate Church in Corinth feels they have become kings, and have all they want. He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward. New Apostolic Reformation I pray for softening of your heart in this having researched the critical record against Bill Johnson. If we do not, in our turn, watch for these wolves, and warn the flock we will be held responsible for neglect. Ivar said: If we are not careful the restraints of culture can strip of of our liberty and freedom in Christ. Pastor Crabtree put out a report to the pastors in his district that featured this warning about the dangers of dominion theology: Kingdom Now teachers have redefined the Gospel which requires re-evangelizing the church without an emphasis upon Jesus Christ. They bring people closer to God and have compassion for the lost, sick and oppressed. The earth is the Lords and the fullness thereof, Truth is forever, lies reside in never, never land. This is a very visible and immediately obvious red flag of a dominionist church. One of the most alarming, least understood, and fastest spreading errors is the teaching that this present earth, instead of heaven, is the ultimate home for the church. Let go of what ties you down to this earth Gerda, for the leader of this world is satan. The post Colorado Appeals Court Rules Against Jack Phillips, Masterpiece Cakeshop in Trans Cake Case appeared first on Lighthouse Trails Research Project. However the issue is of course the timing. Please brother, I am concerned for you because I have read Jesus words about holding the children away from the kingdom of heaven (Mt 18) and some people you mention here and that you critizise really bring a lot of people in to the Kingsom of Heaven. The article analyzes basic teachings of Kingdom Now theology, which is one variation of Dominion theology. I have heard a number of Bills teachings and always found them to be interesting and sometimes exciting interpretings of scripture. On the month of August/2014, deceived by this person through the internet, I rented a so-called house-basement from his home,(when we did the contract we didnt know we were dealing with a rascal). She earned a great deal of money for her owners by fortune-telling. I my self own nothing. The Jesus I serve seems to be much more occupied about my heart than the money belt I am carrying. Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. Dont go beyond Gods Word. The Holy Ghost was never discussed, just God the father and God the son. We are seated with Christ in heavenly places. Will The Real Blasphemers Please Stand Up? > school that also increases on the kids on the street ETC.so How many who say they are Christian play the lottery in hopes of being rich? When the spirit is absent there is no growth. They sold them and paid off the building with money to spare! 14. A.A. Allen A.R. holy electricity Our old sinful flesh is to die and Christ that is in us to be resurrected. 4. In this newly posted video, Warren is speaking at pastor Joe [Read more] Jesus told the rich man to follow him. It is an effort to use the church to make the world perfect for our Lord's return. I am very happy i from you to that I chittemrajaiah pastor nativity of MARKAPUR. And I am talking about cash and properties. How could I tell someone who used to struggle with homosexuality and had been set free and redeemed all in the name of Jesus that he should probably keep the laughter and tears to a minimum? In other words, feed the body but not the soul just as todays social gospel save the world leaders are doing. If we hide or deny our sins, we become hypocrites. whacking the masses with Jesus juice! Essentially, dominion theology arises from a distorted interpretation of Romans 8:19 and a few other passages. I am far from perfect. You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. He rose to fame in the late 1980s when he debuted his faith and revival meeting summits called "Miracle Crusades." How could I tell someone who had been a slave to sex and was now radically transformed because of What Jesus did that his joy was unfounded? But just for a short time. We can be sincere and we can be sincerely wrong. Not to mention that our post was stolen from our mailbox too. those who disagree with their ungodly behavior and damnable teachings are considered either sub-Christian or religious zealots, Pharisees, cultists, fear-mongers, hate-mongers, sensationalists, liars, witch hunters, heresy hunters, unsaved, and haters of Jesus Christ, who are possessed by a religious spirit.. crawling around on hands and knees (also wearing a leash) Restoration Movement * They want to restore the Edenic nature even though Eden is where sin began. http://www.bbif.no/aktuelt/apologetikk/ennytidnewage/, To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them fornication and adultery.. in that which is recorded above signifies spiritual fornication with the god of this world, which is to love that which is of his world. i am pastor from INDIA i am working among the tribals and villagers and please do pray for us and we do pray for you and yopur ministry. Global warming, polluted air, land and waters, toxic wastes, sexual perversion, evil inventions of destruction, greed, hate, carnal warfare, dis-ease ,,,etc,,, are all destructive processes that have their root in the lust of the eye, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life. No one told me to hand pick verses to make them fit into doctrines I have been told to promote. That is the opposite of what if going on in the Charismatic movement. There is no Biblical support for this belief, for the Bible teaches just the opposite. take a ride on the mystical Holy Ghost carpet Kingdom Now theology states that Satan has ruled the world since the fall of Adam and Eve from Eden. I urge you in love to leave this false movement. The same with Eleanor Martin, a 24-year-old TV actress. they push the gullible into supporting their ministry with financial donations and by purchasing books, videos, and DVDsall of which fund trips around the world and expensive lifestyles. 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